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海外网友讨论,为什么很多人认为中国很穷。去过土耳其、阿根廷以及波兰等国家,这些国家的人看到穿着时尚或者使用手机的中国人都非常惊讶。
原文标题:Why do people in many developing countries still think Chinese people are very poor?
来源:https://www.quora.com
译文来源:http://www.ltaaa.com/wtfy/21242.html
I have been to some countries like Turkey Argentina Poland etc. In these countries they seem to be surprised when seeing a Chinese with stylish dressing or even a smartphone. I admit that China is still poor but come on if you go to an ordinary city or village in China it is just very common for a young person to be well-dressed and carry a smartphone.
我去过土耳其、阿根廷以及波兰等国家,这些国家的人看到穿着时尚或者使用手机的中国人都非常惊讶。
我承认,中国仍然贫穷,但是拜托,中国随便一个普通的城市或者乡村里,对于年轻人来说,衣着时尚、使用智能手机都是再平常不过的事。
Why people in manydeveloping countries(not developed countries)still think Chinese people are so poor to such a level considering the salaries in these countries are similar to China?
为什么许多发展中国家的人(不是发达国家)仍然认为中国很穷?
认为他们的工资水平和中国差不多?
Let’s check some statistics:
我们来看一些统计数据
smartphone penetration:List of countries by smartphone penetration
智能手机普及率:智能手机普及率国家名单
20th China 46.9%,30th Poland 35%,37th Agentina 30.7%,38th Turkey 29.6%
第二十名:中国 46.9%
第三十名:波兰 35%
第三十七名:阿根廷 30.7%
第三十八名:土耳其 29.6%
Number of Fixed Wired Internet subscribers/population:
固定有线互联网用户/人口
List of countries by number of broadband Internet subscxtions
宽带会员用户国家名单
Poland: 16.6%,China 13%,Argentina 10.9%,Turkey 10.5%
波兰:16.6%
中国:13%
阿根廷:10.9%
土耳其:10.5%
海外网友看中国“为什么很多发展中国家的人依然认为中国人很穷”一文发表了看法
  • Peter Yang

    The answer is quite simple. It is because the western media didn’t tell the truth: that’s their stereotypes views.
    I’m from Western China and my hometown was defined to be the poor rural district by our government. Here it is…
    As you can see in the map in my hometown there are many mountains out there and yes! Back to 10 years ago we were very poor and all the China’s rural region were very poor. At that time we lived in this house…
    As you can see at that time our living condition was not good. I remember when I was a child our food had very little meat because we couldn’t afford it. But now it has changed and we moved into a new house. It looks like this…
    We are not rich but we are not that poor. Every family has at least 2 motorcycles; some of them have bought cars; TV and Internet are very common; smartphone is very cheap in China (do you know about Xiaomi?); all my family members have smartphone; and now I’m in university and about 1000 miles far away from my hometown but every weekend I can make a video talk with my parents because I know they miss me.
    My parents didn’t have too much education: my dad can’t even write his name correctly! So my dad can’t get a stable job and he is a farmer-worker (农民工) in China. He builds houses for other families and earns some money but he has no insurance and no welfare security. Every penny is made by his hand and he feeds the whole family. But I think our life is OK and we don’t have to worry about food shortage—the time of starvation has passed.
    Urbanization in China has totally changed the view in the rural regions. In my hometown more and more people move to the cities and use their abilities to make money. When they have enough money they buy an apartment in the city and settle down and they won’t do the farm work anymore. But some of them like my parents they don’t want to leave their land so they plant crops just like this..
    And this…
    Now is the harvest time…
    And this…
    We don’t rely on the crops to survive. In fact many people in my hometown didn’t plant crops because they can buy their food. But my parents do that because they love their lands—they spent all their life to take care of it—and they can’t live without their land!
    Today more and more people live in the big cities with big houses. They are rich and they can buy anything they want but can we say they are happy enough? I don’t think so. I think everyone needs something to support them in the world—not just money. While of course money can solve material problems it can’t solve the spiritual problems. Some of them need religion a God and some of them need science and philosophy. But for my parents they don’t know what communism and capitalism are; they don’t know what democracy is and what the Great Firewall of China is about; they don’t care who is take charge of the country—what they care about is their land their crops the land is their dependable “God.” When they can eat the food they plant by their own hands they are happy enough.
    And the young people in the rural areas they know how to dress up to catch others’ attention and they like fashion and trends. For example as a college student I’m not rich and I’m from a “poor” countryside but I have iPhone iPad and computers. This is very common in China. If you use iPhone no one thinks you are rich; but if you can buy a big house in Beijing Shanghai or Shenzhen then they may think you are rich.
    Urbanization in China has changed many people’s life. On one hand it makes us rich and we don’t have to worry about our next meal like 15 years ago. But on the other hand many people in China especially the young generation they leave their hometown and their land to struggle in the big cities. They work for money and endure a lot of pressure. For some of those people they have no roots! They forget who they are they forget where they belong—all they want is money and they ended up lost in their life.
    In a famous Chinese movie called Happy Together (春光乍泄) directed by Karwai Wong (王家卫) there was a memorable line.
    “Finally I understood the reason why he could be happy when he wanders outside. It’s because he knows there’s always a home for him to return to.”
    As a young generation in China whether my country is poor or rich I still love it; whether my hometown is poor or rich I still love it. Maybe one day when I became very rich and bought a big house in a big city I would still remember that there’s always a place for me to return to—it’s home!
    In summary: “No investigation; no right to judgement.” And so I welcome anyone to visit China :)

    答案很简单,因为西方霉体没有告诉他们实情。所以他们才有如此刻板印象。

    我来自中国西部,我的家乡被政府归类为贫困地区,看下图…

    如你在地图上所见,我的家乡山脉众多。十年前,我们非常贫穷,中国所有的农村地区也都很贫穷。那个时候,我们住在这样的房子里…

    如你所见,那时候我们的居住条件非常差,我记得,小时候很少吃肉,因为吃不起。现在,条件改善了,我们搬进了新家,图片如下…

    我们不富裕,但也不穷。每家都至少有两辆摩托车,有些家庭甚至买了小轿车。电视、宽带稀松平常。

    智能手机在中国非常便宜(你们知道小米手机吗?) ,我们家人手一部智能手机,如今,我在离家千里之外上大学,但是每个周末,我都会(能) 和爸妈视频聊天,因为我知道他们很想我。

    我的父母受教育程度不高,我爸甚至连他的名字都不会写。

    所以我爸找不到稳定的工作,他在中国被叫做农民工。

    他在建筑工地打工,但是没有保险也没有社保。

    他靠双手吃饭,并挣钱养活了我们一家人。(有些辣眼睛,为坚韧的中国人喝彩) 但是我觉得我们生活得很好,我们不必担心下一顿吃什么,饥荒一词,已成为历史的印记。

    中国的城镇化,已经彻底改变了农村地区的观念,在我的家乡,越来越多的人搬进城住,靠一技之长谋生。

    当他们赚够足够的钱后,就在城里买一套公寓,然后安顿下来,他们再也不会碰农活。

    但也有一些人,就如我父母一样,他们不想离开(生养)他们的土地,所以,他们(在这些土地上仍然坚持)种植一些农作物,如下这些…

    坚持种植农作物

    坚持种植农作物

    还有这个

    农作物

    农作物

    收获季节

    收获季节

    收获季节

    这个

    收获季节

    收获季节

    我们已经无需靠种地吃饭,事实上在我的家乡,很多人都已经不再种地,因为他们可以直接去买粮食。

    但是我的父母扔坚持种地,是因为他们爱这片土地爱得深沉。他们花了一生的时间和精力来侍弄他们的土地。土地,已经成了他们生命中不可或缺的一部分。

    种植农作物

    种植农作物

    如今,越来越多的人住进了城里的大房子。他们生活富裕,想要什么就可以买什么。

    但是我们就能说他们生活得很幸福了吗?我不这样认为。

    我觉得,人总要有某种寄托才能生存下去,不单单是钱。当然,钱确实能解决物质方面的需求,但是却无法解决精神方面的需要。所以,有些人需要宗教和上帝的慰籍,有些人从科学和哲学中寻找答案。(译注:这句如觉得翻译得过度泛化,请指正)。

    但对于我的父母来说,他们不知道共产主义和资本主义是什么,不知道明主是什么概念,也不知道中国的网络防火墙是怎么回事,更不关心谁来执掌这个国家。

    他们真正在意的是他们的土地,他们的作物。土地,才是他们赖以生存的上帝。

    能吃上靠自己双手种植的食物,对于他们来说已经足够幸福了。

    对于农村地区的年轻人来说,他们知道如何打扮自己来引起别人的注意。他们喜欢流行和时尚。

    比如像我:作为一个在校大学生,我并不富裕,而且我从一个”贫穷“的乡下来的,但是我同样也有苹果手机、IPAD和电脑。这在中国再平常不过。

    没人觉得用苹果手机的就一定是富人,但是如果你有能力在北京上海深圳这样的地方买房,那他们会觉得你才是一个真正的土豪。

    在中国,城镇化改变许多人的生活(模式)。一方面,他让我们富裕起来,不再像15年前一样为下一餐而发愁,而另一方面,很多人,特别是年轻一代的人,背井离乡去大城市打拼。

    承受生活的重重重压。他们如无根浮萍,已经忘了自己是谁,来自哪里,在他们眼里只剩下钱,最终迷失了生活的方向。

    中国有一部由王家卫执导的著名电影春光乍泄,有一段让人印象深刻的台词:

    电影感悟

    电影感悟

    台词:“我终于明白他可以开开心心在外边走来走去的原因,因为他知道自己有处地方让他回去。”

    作为中国的年轻一代,不管我的祖国是贫穷还是富裕,我仍深爱着她。不管我的故乡是贫穷还是富裕,我仍深爱着她。

    也许有一天我变得富裕,在大城市里买了房。我仍然不会忘记,总有一处地方让我回去-我的家(故乡)

    总之:没有调查,就没有发言权。所以,欢迎你们到中国来。

  • upxe

    Thanks for the many upvotes. Some friends in the comment section talked about the farmer-worker problem in China and so I want to show you more.
    China has rapidly developed in the last decades because of the expenditures on infrastructure and industrial so China has millions of construction workers. My father is also one of them because he didn’t have a well-educated background. He only went to primary school so even as a Chinese he can’t say Putonghua (Standard Chinese; our official language though my hometown has its own language) and write his name correctly. So the only jobs he can do are construction work. Construction work is of course very harsh and I can guess many of you have no idea how it is like to be working under the hellish heat of the sun! But I know.
    Two years ago when I finished my high school and went to university I had a three-months-long holiday. So at that time I followed my father to do construction work—we built a primary school for the local people in the rural area.
    The school looks like this…
    And this…
    And back then was around July in China the hottest month in a year. In the midday the temperature could surge to 40+ ℃ and working with that heat is very tough…
    I had to drink lots of water or else I’d be down with a heatstroke. When we worked for a while we would rest for a bit. And nowhere was as cooling as this place…
    Here my father and uncles are working together…
    And this is my job in the very hot weather. At the time I was just got 18…
    After three days my skin was almost fried to black by the hot sun and my father persuaded me to go home. He said I was not the man who could do this kind of work—I was almost crying at that time too tired to work anymore and all I wanted was to run away and go home to have a shower and sleep—so the boss gave me ¥500 for my three days of work. When I got the money I quit and left my father there. It was then when I came to know how hard it is for my father to earn money to feed my family and I told myself that I’d study harder and get a better job.
    My father can earn about ¥250 a day but my uncles can earn about ¥400+ a day. For some proficient worker they can earn more and it can go up to ¥500+ a day which is almost $100 in one day. I think no matter what kind of jobs you are doing the more job skills you master the higher pay you will get. Because this work is quite hard my father won’t do it everyday. He usually does this work for just 15 days in a month and for the rest of his time he stays home and takes care of his crops. My mother didn’t get a job because her physical health is not really well.
    I know that some people may judge people like my father and think he’s a lower class and are ashamed of them but here I want to tell you that they are the most respectable people in China—it’s those people like my father who build the country and improve our living not the politicians and bankers. Look around where you are living and working right now: the apartments the city buildings the roads… Many construction workers have given their utmost effort to build it.
    Many construction workers like my father have only a little education so they have no choice but to do the heavy work. Those people will persuade their children to have a better education. And now in China people like myself from the rural area can easily go to college; the university fee is not too expensive (about ¥5000 a year); every year we can borrow ¥6000 from the bank and we don’t need to pay the interest since our government paid for us and that was the fee. Our government also has some special policies for students from rural places. For me I can receive about ¥3000 from our government. Also if your grades are good enough you can earn scholarships.
    The young generation is the country’s hope. After we have been well educated we can expect a good future for ourselves and for our country.
    All the picture in my answer were shot by myself. If you want to post them in other places please ask me for the permission. Thanks for reading.

    谢谢这么多朋友点赞。

    一些朋友在评论里提到中国的农民工问题,在这里我向你们展示更多信息。

    中国在过去30年里去的了飞速发展,得益于他们在基础设施和工业产业上的支出,因此中国目前拥有数百万的建筑工人。

    因为教育背景不高,我父亲也是他们中的一员。他只去上了小学,所以即使身为一个中国人他现在普通话也说不利索(标准中文,我们的官方语言,但是我的家乡有自己的语言),也不会准确的写出他的名字。

    所以他能做的工作只有建筑工人。建筑工作毫无疑问是一项非常严酷的工作,我猜你们都没办法想象在烈日下工作的残酷,但是我是知道的。

    2年前我完成我的高中学业,在我去上大学前有3个月的暑假。

    这段时间我跟随我的父亲去做建筑工人,我们为当地人在乡下建了一座小学。

    学校像这样。。。。。。

    建设中的学校

    建设中的学校

    还有这样。。。。。。

    建设中的学校

    建设中的学校

    七月份的中国正是一年中最热的一个月。正午的气温会达到40度,这种温度下工作非常困难

    高温下工作

    高温下工作

    我不得不喝很多水要不然我会中暑。当我休息一会的时候没有一个地方时凉快的。

    休息时间

    休息时间

    这是我爸爸和我的叔叔在一起工作

    工作中

    工作中

    我当年18,我工作时候的天气很热。

    气候非常炎热

    气候非常炎热

    在三天后我的皮肤被热热的太阳烤的黝黑,而且我的爸爸劝我回家。

    他说我不是干这种工作的料,我当时不用在做工了以至于我都快哭出来了,我只想回家冲凉然后睡觉。

    我的老板给了我三天的工钱500元。当我得到钱我离开了我的父亲。从那时我知道我爸挣钱养家不容易,我告诉我自己要好好学习有个好工作。

    我爸每天挣大概250元,但是我的叔叔每天大概赚400元。对于一些要求较高的工作他们的工资可能达到500元一天,大概是100美元一天。

    我认为无论做什么工作你会的越多,你赚的就越多。

    因为这个工作很辛苦我爸不会每天都做。他总是一个月工作15天,剩下的日子在家料理田地。我妈没动作做因为她的身体不适很好。

    我知道,有些人会将我父亲这类人视为下等人, 并以他们为耻。

    但是我要在这里告诉你们,他们才是中国最值得尊重的人。是这些人建造了国家,改善了我们的居住条件,而不是政客和银行家。

    回头看看你住的地方,你工作的地方,公寓、城市建筑、道路…大量的建筑工人投入了他们最大的精力去建造它们。

    很多像我父亲一样的建筑工人没什么文化,他们别无选择,只能做重体力活。

    这些人会说服他们的孩子接受更好的教育。如今的中国,像我这样来自农村的孩子也能轻易的进入大学学习。

    学费也不太贵(大概5千人民币一年) ,我们每年可以向银行贷6千元的款,无需付利息,政府会帮我们支付利息。

    政府还有一些针对农村地区学子的特殊政策,比如我,就可以收到3千元的政府补助。还有,如果你够牛,还能挣到奖学金。

    年轻人是国家的希望,接受过良好教育的我们能有一个更好的前程,国家也会有一个更好的未来。

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